Frequently Asked Questions of Rebreathers?
What is the difference between semi-closed
and fully-closed rebreathers... ?
There are two primary classes of rebreathers, semi-closed
and fully-closed. The CCR 2000 is a fully closed system.
Each shares many of the components of the other, but
there are some distinct differences as well. In general
terms, a semi-closed rebreather expels at least a
portion of the breathing gases as a part of its normal
operation regardless of depth changes. A fully-closed
rebreather completely recirculates the breathing gases.
Both types need to expel gases as you acend to relieve
pressure on the breathing loop as the gases expand.
Semi-closed rebreathers are generally of simpler
design and usually rely on a predetermined nitrox
mixture or a constant flow of diluent and Oxygen.
Fully closed systems have oxygen sensors which constantly
monitor the partial pressure of oxygen as it changes
with depth and then based on this information add
oxygen to the breathing mix as needed. It would be
fair to say that there are benefits and disadvantages
to each relative to the requiremens of the type of
diving.
Why would someone want one and how are they used...
?
The initial use and still the predominant use of
underwater rebreathers is the military. The long bottom
times and stealth ability of rebreathers make them
very popular with the military. There are also rebreathers
used above the water for such things as mine rescue.
From a non-military perspective, the majority of
use is scientific (like underwater archaeology, specimen
collection, etc.) and videography (film). Rebreathers
are popular in these uses for much the same reasons
they are popular in the military, long bottom times
and relatively little noise from expired bubbles.
In the very recent past rebreathers have started
to make their way into recreational diving, first
semi-closed units and recently, fully-closed units.
Rebreathers require a greater commitment in time,
money and knowledge to be used effectively and safely,
and these are the reasons they have been slow to penetrate
the recreational market.
How long can you stay under water?
The answer to this question is, that it varies widely.
The longest times are generally produced by fully-closed
rebreathers. The CCR 2000 will allow the diver to
stay underwater for over 8 hours on very little gas.
Do rebreathers make bubbles?
Some rebreathers make bubbles but the CCR 2000 does
not. Semi-closed rebreathers only exhaust a small
percentage of each breath and the bubbles that are
released are often mechanically diffused. Fully closed
rebreathers release no bubbles as the result of breathing.
Both types will release some bubbles as the diver
ascends and the gases in his breathing loop expand.
(It has to go somewhere!)
How expensive are rebreathers to purchase and maintain?
Rebreathers cover a range of prices. From a low of
just under $3000.00 USD to over $20,000.00 USD. The
standard model of the CCR 2000 is $15,000.00 USD.
Maintenance is perhaps a little more intensive than
open circuit gear on most units. You are after all
connecting an airspace to your lungs which you would
probably like to keep clean! There are, of course,
other maintenance issues that vary from unit to unit.
Generally speaking, the fully-closed units require
more maintenance and are more costly to maintain.
What about "consumables"?
All rebreathers have some consumables which you need
to replace on a regular basis. The primary consumable
is the scrubber material. As the scrubber material
absorbs CO2 it becomes non-reactive and must be replaced.
Rebreathers with O2 sensors require replacement of
these sensors on a regular basis.
Is training required?
YOU BET! Rebreathers are not like diving with open
circuit. They have a completely new set of challenges
that are not covered in open circuit courses. Rebreathers
can kill you without you realizing it if you try and
use them without extensive training. Some rebreathers
have courses available through some of the regular
training agencies. The training courses of other units
are from the manufacturer or individuals supported
by the manufacturers. Dan Wible provides training
and certification through IANTD.
How common are rebreathers?
Rebreathers are most common in the military. After
the military the use of rebreathers has been primarily
in the commercial, scientific and filmaking fields.
With the introduction of lower priced Semi-closed
units, the recreational market has started to grow
and you should expect to see a number of newly available
units in 2001. 2001 may very well be the year that
rebreathers really start to make inroads into the
recreational market. As of this date, there are not
very many rebreathers out of military hands.
Do the certification agencies have any type of rebreather
courses?
The technical diving agencies are getting into training
on rebreathers. IANTD is training on most of the available
rebreathers, and some companies are training on individual
units. Rebreathers are even becoming available on
some live aboard dive boats (usually the semi-closed
units). If you look carefully it's possible to rent
units.
How deep can you dive?
This is a difficult question to answer because it
varies based on the unit and circumstances. For instance,
an O2 rebreather should be limited to 20 fsw, while
there have been chamber lock out dives on closed circuit
rebreathers over 1000fsw! In general, the limits for
diving fully closed circuit units revolve around bail-out
requirements more than the rebreathers themselves.
It's difficult or impossible to carry enough bailout
gas for a total system failure on the rebreather when
you are making long deep dives. Having said this there
are people in the world who regularly dive rebreathers
over 400fsw. More typically rebreather divers stay
under 200fsw just like regular divers but with extended
bottom times.
The "I'm not completely ignorant" questions
(and answers)....
Do Rebreathers keep a constant pO2?
Mostly. First you must always remember that there
are many different ways to make a rebreather. Semi-closed
units do not keep constant pO2's. Fully closed units
make every attempt to keep a constant pO2 by monitoring
the oxygen partial pressures with galvonic sensors
and then adding only enough O2 to maintain a set point.
Military specs are a pO2 of .7, most other rebreather
divers usually use a set point from 1.2 to 1.6.
What are "Caustic Cocktails"?
"Caustic Cocktails" were named for the
corrosive mixture common to older rebreathers when
water came in contact with the scrubber medium. This
is less of a problem now as the soda lime which is
usually used as scrubber medium is less susceptable
to this chemical reaction. However, it is still a
very good idea to keep water out of your breathing
loop as it reduces the efficiency of the soda lime,
and still makes a less than savory mix, which, if
less likely to kill you, is still to be avoided.
Is there a physiological benefit to diving with a
rebreather?
Yes, there is a physiological benefit at least with
a constant pO2 rebreather. If you maintain a constant
higher pO2 than you would have during an open curcuit
dive, you will absorb less Nitrogen into the body.
This can lessen the chance of DCS relative to open
circuit on the same dive profile. Of course you need
to be more aware of CNS toxicity when diving a closed-curcuit
rebreather due to the higher exposures to O2 . Semi-closed
rebreathers do not generally have the same physiological
benefits, because the do not maintain a constant pO2.
The "pretty darn technical" questions (and
answers)....
How does the rebreather know when to add Diluent
or O2 to the loop?
A fully closed curcuit rebreather has O2 sensors
and electronics which monitor the sensors to control
the addition of Oxygen. As the pO2 drops below the
set point a solinoid fires which injects O2 into the
breathing loop. There is a set of three sensors which
are polled to be sure of maintaining the correct Oxygen
partial pressure.
Diluent is added as a function of loop volume, as
you go deeper more is added to maintain the loop volume,
on many units, if the counter-lung bottoms out, a
mechanical valve is pressed to release more diluent
into the counter lung loop.
Can you use the rebreather to help with decompression
obligation?
Yes. It is quite common on fully closed rebreathers
to finish a dive by purging the counter lung at the
20ft. stop and manually injecting Oxygen to get the
benefits of pure O2 for decompression. Also, there
is generally a lower decompression obligation to begin
with because of the high pO2's during the dive. This
is not usually the case with semi-closed rebreathers
which are similar to open circuit in terms of decompression.
How do you plan a dive with a constant pO2?
Currently, with rare exception divers use constant
pO2 tables which are similar to recreational tables
in use but which take into account the constant pO2's.
There is also starting to be a small number of software
packages which will calculate deco tables on a constant
pO2 such as that on the CCR 2000. The CCR 2000's computer
is also a dive planner but for many units they need
an off-the-shelf computer.
As a side note, the most commonly used algorithm
to calculate tables and used within computers is some
variation of the Buhlman algorithm. This algorithm
already allows for a constant pO2 but this feature
of the algorithm has been rarely implemented because
of the relatively small need. This should change with
the growing popularity of rebreathers.
What is a Rebreather?
What are the advantages
of using a CCR?
CCR Rebreathers
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